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"RE-THE FUCK-RAISE" - Ryan
Well, yes. That much wasn't in doubt. The problem here relied on the fact that in my years of playing poker, never once have I run into a situation where I've made a call-raise/re-raise play preflop. I've limped/reraised, sure (and almost completely removed it from my game), but this one was weird.
It was a small mistake to call pre-flop. My line of thinking was that I was playing deception against UTG+1, and that the Rock to my left probably wasn't going to come into the hand. A standard raise to his BB never committed him to playing, so I felt confident it would be a heads up hand. If he called, then I bet out on the flop and we'd see where I was.
Instead, the BB reraises, and UTG calls, leaving me in a quandry. How do I extract maximum value out of this hand, and still ensure that i'm only up against one hand? And is that even the right line of thinking? Bluff Magazine had a Caro column recently where isolating with Aces wasn't always the right move, since their max profitability is supposedly against five players. But I just wanted to win the hand, and only stack one of these two in the process.
Here's what i'm thinking at this point: If I re-raise and BB calls, UTG+1 is almost certainly calling too. So I can't reraise a small amount. Best case scenario, BB folds and UTG+1 calls. So, make an overbet. I re-raised to 60, putting the BB all in.
Of course, jamming here has to be one of the goofier moves that can be witnessed at these tables, and if I was the guy in the BB I would scream "BULLSHIT!" at the monitor as I debated what to do. It's a raise that begs someone to play the table sheriff. And at these low limit tables, you get a lot of guys who wanna wear a badge.
The BB used up his entire clock before folding, and then UTG+1 dropped his hand immediately. I scooped 16 bucks and nobody said a single thing in chat. I was actually shocked at that.
Raising less (30?) is probably the best move here, though I don't know the right amount that only keeps one of the two in the hand.
Posted by Chris at August 2, 2006 03:05 PM
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Im confused don't you want him to play sherrif and call your all in? One of my favorite moves in low limit NLHE is to see a small raise before me of like a buck or two and then re-raise it like 5-6 bucks more. Only if I think he has pockets. I then induce alot of JJ-QQ hands to think I have low pockets and push over the top of me getting crushed. It seems to work at these levels.
Posted by: sirfwalgman at August 2, 2006 03:45 PM
Yeah. Thirty. Don't be a donkey.
Posted by: StudioGlyphic at August 2, 2006 06:17 PM
If you raise less, how far are you willing to go on a scary flop?
More often then not the overbet does work. Sadly it didn't here.
Posted by: Drizztdj at August 3, 2006 10:16 AM
I faced a similar situation last night and pushed when I faced a raise and a re-raise. Both folded, but I did not complain about the $20 profit.
At least one didn't have the chance to suck out on me.
Posted by: Pokerpeaker at August 4, 2006 11:46 PM